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  • nmes

    Congrats to everyone who made it out. Awesome time and one heck of an adventure. Amazing food and beer afterward at Durango Brewing Company, and Kip got the honors of free beer and a growler to go!

    Timers started at Bread and ended at Durango Brewing Company. Final miles were 97 for the Full DDC with 13,700-ft of climbing. Some mud, some rain, some snow, a few fallen trees did slow things down a bit, but it did not stop these folks from giving it a try!

    Full DDC
    Place Name Total Time Notes
    Kip Biese 11:34
    Ryan Douglas 12:24 (Single Speed)
    Steve Reiter 12:53
    Matt Turgeon 12:53 (Single Speed)
    Doug Byerly 14:11
    Jeff Hemperley 14:19 (Single Speed)
    Scott Broome 14:19

    DDC – Plan B
    Place Name Total Time Notes
    Andrew Black 11:50
    Danny Powers 12:49

    DNF (Better luck next year!)
    Name Total Time Notes
    Scott Deming 10:10 Up Hotel and back down Hermosa to town
    Brad Hunt 10:30 To Corral down Hermosa back to town
    Billy Schaaphok 11:10 Up Hotel to Salt Creek down Corral and Hermosa back to town
    Mike Carpenter 11:10 Up Hotel to Salt Creek down Corral and Hermosa back to town
    Aaron Countryman 11:10 Up Hotel to Salt Creek down Corral and Hermosa back to town
    Jeff Vierling 14.29 Champion Venture then back to town
    Jay Lewindowski ??

    Anthony Maguire
    Brian Blair
    Stephanie Grant
    Adam Fleener
    Greg Backman
    Thomas Ray
    Jordan Carr
    Irfan Khan
    Paul Adams
    Scott DeMers
    Casey Roberts

  • nmes

    2011 Preliminary Results:

    Congrats to everyone who showed up this year and attempted this monster! It was a bluebird sky day, with awesome temperatures and clear visibility, even with the fires down in New Mexico. We started from San Juan Cycles and rolled out to Hermosa Park and once the climb started people got down to business. Some went for a time trial, others went for a ride, and still others just tried to survive! We had excellent support at our three aid stations, and thanks to everyone who brought food and beverages to support the riders! We also received product from Hammer Nutrition, and at the last minute we got a wonderful care package from Nate Bird of Honey Stinger. Ska Beer kept the aid stations well lubricated, and it was surely enjoyed by more than a few riders at the top of Kennebec Pass!

    There will be lots of stories to share, and I know a lot of you took pictures, so please share if you will by posting links here!

    Here are the preliminary results, so please post here if corrections are needed.

    The Big ‘A’ Ride:

    Joey Ernst – 12 hours, 22 mins
    Doug Johnson – 12:22
    Ken Boyer – 13:05
    Jeff Kerkove – 13:05
    Danny Powers – 13:19
    Matt Turgeon (SS) – 13:35
    Ryan Douglas (SS) – 14:06
    Sonya Looney (W) – 14:32
    Andrew Carney (SS) – 14:32
    Jordan Carr – 14:32
    Pete Basinger – 14:53
    Rebecca Barfoot (W) – 18:05
    Jill Hueckman (W) – 18:05
    Aaron Kimble – 23:05
    Chris McGovern (SS) – DNF
    Kirby Bryant (SS) – DNF
    Tom Ober – DNF
    Rick Callies – DNF (broken derailleur)
    Phil Patrick – DNF
    Jon Csansky – DNF

    The Bad ‘B’ Ride:

    Nick Gould – 9:52
    Brendan Schafer – 10:44
    Robin Guillame (SS) – 10:49
    Bret Bernard – 11:28
    Blake Ward – 12:06
    Walker Lowe – 12:12
    Lyra Parker (W) (SS) – 12:25
    Ivan Unkovskoy (SS) – 12:25
    Lenny Goodell (SS) – 12:53
    Billy Schaaphok – 12:53
    Mike Mangan – 13:04
    Scott Cary – 13:04
    Ashley Oelschlaeger – 13:04
    Kelly Klett (SS) – 13:24
    Sarah Uhl (W) – 14:26
    Chad Cheeney – DNF (broken frame)

    The ‘C’ Challenge:

    Troy Hachmann – 9:45
    Andrew Ferguson – unk
    Vic Rudolf – DNF

    Did Not Start:

    Aaron Sublett
    Sara Delano
    Dax Massey
    Scott McCalmon
    Tyler Holland
    Jeffery Hemperley
    Joey Parent
    Doug Byerly
    TR Larsen
    Maxfield LaFortune
    Trent Cooper
    Eric Herchmer

    (W) denotes Woman rider, (SS) is for single speeder

    See you all next year!

  • Sandhya

    Here are a few photos of riders near or on Blackhawk Pass. Great job everyone! http://www.flickr.com/photos/61425074@N04/sets/72157627003311761/

  • ao

    Hey Scott. Finished the breck 100. When is your adventure race?


  • Todd Kennedy

    If we can get a critical mass I’d do a 5:00 start. Not sure the best way to reach out to people. If not enough are interested ill plan to start at 6.

  • Matt Schiff

    I asked about the route being the same as last year so I could grab someone’s GPS. Here is Jeff Kerkove’s from last year. http://app.strava.com/rides/858778

  • teamvelveeta

    I corrected the GPX that I published for the route. So this file:


    Now shows the correct route past the Hotel Draw aid station. FYI. (Thanks Aaron!)

  • Walker Lowe

    The Colorado Trail is signed at that intersection and the one further up the road where it forks left, the new signs read Colorado Trail, the old CT logos still exist but they are not in the most noticible locations.

  • SWES

    Hi Chuck! Matt Schiff put together a Strava file from Jeff Kerkoves ride a few years back. I can’t vouch for it, but it looks pretty much correct.


    Usually the SS debate is 32×21 or 32×22. We usually get a free ride out to Hermosa as the pack tends to ride together until the first climb. Hermosa Trail could use taller gearing, but it’s usually full on race pace to Celebration Lake and then the easier gearing pays off as the next ~6 hours are at high elevation.

    Glad to see you interested in doing this one.


  • michael ackerman

    Hey gang,

    After speaking with Matt, I’d like to start the dialogue concerning an early AM start. I believe Tom P. has organized an earlier departure in the past….?
    So with this in mind, who’s in for the 2013 DDC and would like to synch up for an alpine start? We’re going to gauge interest here on the forum and then move on to discussing logistics….

    I’m gonna throw out 5am to start the conversation…(I’m not a fast rider but I have a remarkable ability to suffer)

  • Luis

    Hey guys! Coming from the Lakewood area, can anybody recommend a place to stay, preferably convenient to the race start? Thanks!

  • SWES

    The “aid stations” will be minimal and based on what people donate. There is no guarantee they will be there, but generally the stations are spaced ~3 hours apart for a 12 hour finish. It is up to the volunteers at the stations to determine how long they will be out there, but in years past they have been there for at least a 16 hour finish.

  • Jesse Jakomait

    FYI, Hwy 160 near Wolf Creek Pass is currently CLOSED due to the West Fork Fire complex . Plan your way to Durango carefully!
    Front rangers might have to take 50 to Montrose then head south.

  • Kevin Sainio


  • Matty Graham

    Thanks for the offer Dave. But I have it sorted out. Have a great ride.

  • SWES

    Hi everyone –

    The 2015 DDC is coming up fast and with all this late season snow right now it is hard to predict the trail conditions for late June. For locals, please report what you find in the upcoming weeks. We will do our best to get up to the high country soon as well.

    If the CT is impassable, we will alter the route so that the DDC can continue. The fall-back plan in the past was the ride would be altered doing Hermosa to Coral Draw (with or without Blackhawk depending on conditions) and the Dutch-Jones-Pink-Flag loop after coming back down Hermosa. This is not as simple as the original DDC course, but not difficult to follow at all.

    So if anybody starts to get nervous we want to let everybody know the ride will go on, either on the original course or this alternative.

    We are also open to ideas any of you may have as well. I’d like to throw in Big Lick or Little Elk but those need GPS for sure as even locals get lost on those trails.



  • SWES

    ATTN Everyone: 2015 Course Change (due to heavy snow up high)

    A Ride: Town-Hermosa-Hotel Draw-Corral Draw-Hermosa-Elbert Cr / Big Lick – Dutch – Hermosa – Town.

    B Ride: All of the above expect the Elbert Cr / Big Lick – Dutch loop.

    Pot-Luck Aid Stations (you donate food and drinks) most likely at top of Hermosa and Hotel Draw. Possibly at the bottom of Hermosa is someone wants to volunteer for that one (afternoon/evening shift).

    This keeps with the theme of simple to follow routes. The tricky part is the A Ride with Elbert Creek (also called Big Lick) and down Dutch. Elbert Creek is poorly marked. So if you wish to avoid this just do the B Ride. If you are genius with a GPS here is a site you can download tracks for Elbert Creek to Dutch. If someone makes up a complete GPS track, please post is here for others. This is a sharing community so any help is appreciated.

    Post party at Velorution – Joey will open the doors and we will have beer than you donate and perhaps pizza if you wish to donate for the cash fund – which also covers gas and food for aid station volunteers. so if you want a lot of pizza at the finish please donate kindly!

    Elbert Creek tracks located here: http://www.mtbproject.com/trail/5945636

  • Dana Ernst

    I make no claims about the accuracy of the route I mapped, but here is my interpretation of the revised route:


    You can download the GPX track from the link above. If you just want to view the route, I suggest changing the map type to OSM Cycle or USGS Topo. If you notice any mistakes, please let me know. Also, I suggest ignoring the cue sheet as the track was built by gluing together existing tracks and clicking along on the topo map when I couldn’t find existing tracks.

  • Danny Powers

    Big Lick Trail Conditions and Info

    Having never gone up Big Lick Trail, I wanted to make sure it wasn’t a terrible idea to have the ride go this way. Kylie and I started up the trail 5 1/2 hours into a hot ride, dehydrated, and with only a bottle left each; in other words we were unwillingly simulating the hurt most people will probably be experiencing during the DDC.

    To find Big Lick trail when descending south bound on Hermosa Creek Trail from Corral Draw, stay to the left side of the bridge over Hermosa Creek where Big Bend Creek comes in from the west. A few hundred feet past the bridge the beginning of the trail is marked with three large rock cairns leading through the lower meadow to the trail cut on the hill. Hopefully these are still there on Saturday. Once on the trail it was easy to follow and I marked the trail with red flagging in a couple of places but it’s probably wasn’t necessary. Most of spots I flagged were a courtesy to downhill traffic and shouldn’t confuse people heading up the trail. Surprisingly the trail has already been cut out this year and appears to be getting some traffic. I would still advise carrying a map or a gps just in case though. As a side note, some maps call this trail Elbert Creek, but most folks reserve that name for the continuation of the trail on the east side of the Hermosa Drainage.

    Once on the trail the first mile and a half of the climb is mostly a hike-a-bike and might be a little unpleasant if your not into this sort of thing. Above this the trail becomes really rideable with some pleasant singletrack through some cool backcountry.

    The trail is around 6 miles long with 1700 feet of climbing and it took us about an hour and forty minutes. I’m sure a lot of folks will do it much quicker. Just make sure to save some water for this one. We’re hoping to have an aid station above on Elbert Creek Road, but it’s not for sure yet.

    Once at the top of Big Lick go straight through the gate and follow the single track down the right side of the Elbert Creek drainage, one mile to Elbert Creek Road. I placed a flag on a tree next to the trail just past the gate so that folks don’t end up on the trail more to the north. Some sections of this segment are marshy and it would be best to just walk bikes through the sloppy parts instead of tearing up the meadow next to the trail. This is a fragile zone and bikes have torn it up bad in the past. We don’t want to get blamed for messing it up.

    Check out Joey’s route description above for more detail on the route.

    Also, the creek crossing on Hermosa Creek after Corral Draw should not be an issue. We crossed upper Hermosa Creek in this vicinity twice yesterday and the flow is getting lower by the day.

  • Jeff Kerkove

    For those looking, These are the respective Long and Short routes, posted on Strava for download as well as viewing. I hand drew these using the GPX Dana provided us, as well as the global heat maps.

    SHORT – https://www.strava.com/routes/2644780

    LONG – https://www.strava.com/routes/2644623

  • Jesse Jakomait

    cool. 7am!

  • Dana Ernst

    Thanks for putting on a great event. Other than stabbing myself in the eye, I had a blast.

  • jjakomait

    Any update on the snow conditions this year?

    • SWES

      Hi Jesse – We have a hot spell coming and hope it will chip away at the snow in the high country. Danny and Joey will be scouting this weekend and we still hope for the high course for 2016! -Matt

  • Seth Strickland

    @hosts- did Salt creek (@top of hotel) to Kenny yesterday 6/19 on CT. Have all your snow recon. Hit me up.

  • Danny Powers

    Hey Seth. We’d like to hear more about your recon. I’m guessing you found a lot of snow in the woods on Cape of Good Hope? We rode Indian Trail Ridge on Saturday and found more snow than anticipated.

    • Seth Strickland

      10-4 Danny, miserable from Cape up to Highline, saw yalls tracks up on the Injun, 1/4 mile long snow piles one after another from Grindstone to Kenny. Dropped off at Salt creek by GF, took 4:30 to get to Kenny- maybe rode for 20 ministers of that time. Was reserving comments till I saw y’all made decisions. Good call. What’s B route

  • SWES

    Durango Dirty Century 2016 Update:

    Danny, Kylie, Tomo (from Japan, back for the DDC second year in a row!), and myself rode up La Plata Canyon today and checked out snow conditions on ITR and Kennebec. Unfortunately, there’s still a lot of snow in places, and even though it IS melting fast, it’s not melting fast enough. There was quite a bit up in the open on ITR, and looking at north-facing forests at the Cape’s altitude, we saw pretty deep coats of snow. We think it will still be too deep and pervasive to run the standard route this year.

    Sor for this year, we have a slightly different alternate route that we all agreed would improve on last year’s alternate, as follows:

    Town to Hermosa Campground
    Jones Creek
    Big Lick/Elbert Creek DOWN to Hermosa Creek
    Up West Cross Creek/Stagecoach
    South on CT
    Down Corral Draw
    Down Hermosa and back to town

    Still about 90 miles, still has some hike-a-bike, much better flow and we don’t have to climb the mind-numbing Hermosa trail again. Finally, we will start at the NEW Velorution Location and finish at Carvers.

    • Seth Strickland

      B route & aid location?

      • Danny Powers

        We’d like to have aid stations at the end of Elbert Creek Road (at the north end of Pinkerton-Flag/Dutch) and another at Hotel Draw. This is still contingent on finding aid station volunteers, so if we can’t find people to run two stations we may just have one station at the end of Hermosa Creek.

        With that said, If anyone knows anyone interested in running an aid station please let us know ASAP. As usual we’re getting a bunch of Ska beer to give the aid station volunteers, so put the word out please!

        An option for a B-loop would be skipping West Cross and Corral Draw and heading back to town.

  • Seth Strickland

    I MAY have my truck going up to top of Elbert (581?)- would have room for water jugs, food etc. My friends are greenhorns at support & have evening commitments, but if that would help for station 1 somehow let me know

  • Danny Powers

    Hey, Seth. That would be great if your friends could run the 1st aid station. No experience necessary, they would just need to be at Velorution prior to the start of the ride to pick up the water and food donated the morning of the race and at the end of Elbert Creek road by no later than 9:30 AM. I’m guessing most people will be past the aid station by 1 or 2 PM, so getting back to town by evening shouldn’t be an issue. Let us know if they’re in. We’d have a bunch of Ska beer for them! Thanks.

  • Seth Strickland

    They’re in so, hooray water refills! & beer

  • Danny Powers

    Nice, much appreciated! We’ll have the water and beer ready for them Saturday morning.

  • DPOW

    Hey 2017 Durango Dirty Century participants,

    The ride is on for this Saturday July,15th. Touching base with some last minute updates.

    Earlier Start Time and New Starting Location:

    We will now start at 6 A.M. in front of Carver’s Brewing, located at 1022 Main Avenue, downtown Durango. Decided to start earlier, considering the day’s are shorter than when we usually run the event at the end of June, and the fact that the long course takes most people over 14 hours. With this in mind, we highly recommend you bring a light and layers for colder temps.

    Aid Stations:

    We plan to have two aid stations with water, Ska beer, and whatever snacks people bring to share. The first aid station will be at the top of Hotel Draw and the second will be on Kennebec Pass. Again, like years past, this is a potluck style event so please bring food, water, and drinks for the aid stations, otherwise we’ll have to survive on beer.

    The Course:

    We are running the standard DDC course this year and it is rumored to be free of snow and mostly cut out. I guess we’ll find out.

    Ride Logistics and What to Bring:

    The long course is long and the short course is long too. The long course takes most people over 14 hours to complete and maybe much longer. The short course is maybe two hours quicker. For this reason, everyone should carry a light and some extra clothes in case they get stuck out in the dark. There are also very few places to bail. Study your maps and take particular note of Corral Draw Trail. This trail which drops back into the Hermosa Creek drainage is the last easy bail point before committing to the push over Indian Trail Ridge to Kennebec Pass. It’s also worth noting that Indian Trail Ridge is above treeline for around 7 miles, and can be terrifying to try and cross in a lightning storm.

    The ride will finish at Carver’s Brewing and they have tables saved for us on the back patio starting around 7 P.M. In past years they even gave each finisher a free beer. I’ll have to check in with Mike to see if that offer still stands.

    With that said, I hope you’re all excited for the 8th Annual Durango Dirty Century!



  • DPOW

    The 2018 DDC is cancelled due to the 416 and Burro wildfires. Bummed….
    Let’s hope we can get the trails repaired quickly and have another DDC in 2019 or 2020.

    • Nate Williard

      Any potential for an alternate course or maybe a run at the CTC course?

      • DPOW

        Hey Nate,

        The potential for alternate courses are pretty sparse at the moment. The CT is closed from Molas Pass to Durango, so the CTC course is out. Due to so many areas being closed right now, the only long ride potential from Durango would probably be on Missionary Ridge. I had considered this, but this terrain is all below treeline and the hot temps and smoke may be less than ideal.

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