PIA Forum

Use this page to post questions, answers and general comments  for the PIA event.  Go to the PIA page to register for the event.


22 responses to “PIA Forum

  • Doug Byerly

    Whatcha thinkin for the course, T.Ray ? Would like to start planning for the level of pain and navigational cruxes….

  • Thomas Ray

    Hey Doug and other riders!Dealing with a few Hic-Ups.Should be cleared here pretty soon.Course will be roughly 75-78miles and will be pretty easy to navigate.Sorry for the delay on this.To make this event return there needs to be some do’s and don’t.The feed back has been great so far.
    For those that might be staying the night let me know,i have a couple of hook ups for hotels.Its Labor Day and Snowmass has a 3 day music fest,so rooms and camp grounds fill up.I would stick around,good fun!

  • Todd Kennedy

    Can you give us a hint of what you are thinking for the course. Can’t think of many 78 mile loops in the RF Valley that would be described as easy to navigate. Thanks. Trying to decide if I should do this or rest up for the vapor trail the following weekend.

    • Retta

      Kevin. Kobe’s back-up needs to be a guy who’s ok playing about 14 minutes a game, can play &#&1;02D8#8222;, have some size (at least 6’4), can hit an open jumper, and be willing to accept the veteran minimum. I believe UFA Roger Mason fits all of the above. Does anyone know what’s his status?

  • Thomas Ray

    Hey Folks! Here’s a listing for some hotels.All are is Downtown,and super close to the start finish!
    Tyroleon Lodge-(970)925-4595.Super affordable,and the owner Pierre is one bad ass Mountainer,also a Elk Mountain Grand Traverse winner.
    St Moritz Lodge-(970)925-3220.Aspen’s Hostel,super cheap,and they have a pool!
    LimeLight Lodge-(970)925-3025-Average to Pricey.A block from the start!
    Campgrounds close by are Difficult Campground towards Independence Pass,1st come 1st served,and Maroon Bells,1st come 1st served.Both within a couple miles from the start.
    Being Labor Day weekend,Aspen is pretty busy.We have a music festival in Snowmass,we will be riding right by it.Look into going,Mummford & Sons,Kid Rock,Michael Franti,Sugar Land to name a few.
    Course info.I had to go back out yesterday and put in a re-route,sorry but its a hike-a-bike,but its not that long,20min give or take.Course is 55miles,and were going to do some climbing,about 9k.The cool thing here is there are a lot of places to re-fill and get food,and there’s a kickass fruitstand along the way too!
    Tons and tons of singletrack.I was with a group of 5 yesterday two that never rode more than 15 miles.We all stuck together and after 9 hours,we made it.On the 1st ride times will be a few hours faster,but it was awesome to watch these folks get it done.Hint:Goverment absoulutley smoked’em!
    I need to fix a few things on the gps.Its up on Garmin Connect under Pain in the Aspen,90% of what we will be doing
    Rock-N-Roll,be safe post more soon.This 7 day work thing is killing me!

  • Shawn Hadley

    Yo t-ray! Seems like i can help a brotha(s) out…let us (forum freaks) know if i missed anything. (Disclaimer – not all trails are marked with trail signs and this area has a ton of trails that one can easily get turned around on.) But is literally some of the best single track in CO and this course is 95% single track! Great job t-ray!!!!

    (N/Left out of Justice Snow’s) Mill St
    (R) on Gibson Ave
    (L) on South Ave
    (L) on Park Cir
    Smuggler/Hunter Creek/4 Corners Area
    (L) on Smuggler Mountain Rd
    (R) on what i call the Picnic Loop but there is another official name for it???
    (L) on Smuggler Mountain Rd (through wooden gate)
    (R) on Tootsie Roll
    (R) on Lolllipop
    (R) on Hunter Creek Cut Off
    (R) on Iowa Shaft
    (R) on Hunter Creek and across wooden Bridge
    (L/Continue) on Hunter Creek
    (Continue) on Red Mountain Rd
    (R) on Van Horn Park/Overlook
    (L) on Hobbit
    (Continue) Through 4 Corners on Service Rd
    (L) on Secrete
    (L) on Super Secrete
    End of Smuggler/Hunter Creek/4 Corners Area
    (L) on Sunny Side
    (Continue) Across McClain Flats on Sunny Side
    (L) on Rio Grande
    (R) on Cemetary Ln
    (R) on Silver King Dr
    (L) on Homestake Dr
    (L) on Chatfield Rd
    (Continue) onto Government
    (R) on Tiehack Rd
    (L) on Oregon Trail
    (R) on Buttermilk Service Rd
    (L) on Owl Creek
    (Continue) on Ridge Trail/Sky Mountain Park (formely Droste)
    (R) on Low Line
    (Continue) on Brush Creek Rd
    (R) on Rim Bike Path
    (Continue) on Rim
    (R) on Brush Creek Rd
    (L) on Ditch Trail
    (L) on Connector
    (L) on Government
    (R) on Village Bound
    (R) on Sams Knob Work Rd
    (L) on Cross Mountain
    (L) on Elk Camp Work Road
    (R) on Government
    (Continue) on Tiehack Rd
    (R) on ARC bridge
    (L) on High School Trail
    (Continue) over Maroon Creek Bridge
    (L) on Marolt Bike Path to Aspen
    (Continue) over Castle Creek Bridge
    (L) on 8th
    (R) on Hopkins Ave
    (R) on Mill St
    Arrive for many bevi’s at Justice Snow’!!!

  • Bec Bale

    thanks! looking forward to it!

  • mattschiff

    It seems like the route is set? Can someone post the .gpx?

  • mattschiff

    chad, didn’t get the email, but a link to the course won’t help me. When I click “send to device” it won’t work. I need just the gpx file. I manage everything through topofusion anyway because I had issues installing basecamp (computer wouldn’t update and install .net framework)

    • Jayden

      – I really think this is a great idea. I wish my mom would let me join but with trapanortstion and the cost if you end up not being able to recruit that many people then having to pay the full price. Well again I really think that this is a great idea.

  • James Osborne, CFP® (@BasonAsset)

    Just thought I would add: I managed a way to get the GPX file straight from Garmin Connect. Just use this link to download:

  • T.Ray

    Hey Chad,
    Yup,6:00-6:20 a little meeting.I will post a comment later tonight on some things,but we are a 6:30 start on the nose.

  • Nathan Williard

    How much singletrack in this?

    • Thomas

      Hi Nathan,
      How much single track you ask? A lot is my best answer:-)I will be up there tomorrow laying down a new route(GPS’ING).Yup I will be adding some more single track:-)Some of the old course will remain and adding some new.Start this year will be in Snowmass,mixing it up a bit.

      • Chad Kittles

        Sick T Ray! Can’t wait!

      • Lakesha

        justin vc tem namo ?essa é uma coriosidadesei k deve ter pois justin aiai ele é lindoqual menina k nao iria gosta dele?!hum ?!!!¥!!!!♥♥♥â™!♥♥♥♥♥♥

  • Chad Kittles

    T. Ray,
    Do we still have a meeting from 6:00-6:20 and start at 6:30 from the new place (base camp bar and grill) in Snowmass Village? It looks like the course posted on the homepage is the old one still? Sorry to keep asking but are you posting a new one or should we just upload the old one? I can only upload from work because my Garmin doesn’t like my Mac at home and tomorrow is my last day at work this week. Sorry to bug you, but I only have one day left to get it loaded. Thanks for organizing this again! I know you will put out a great course!


  • Thomas

    Hey All PIA Riders,
    I hope all that has signed up is ready for this weekend.Good news and Bad news.I was in Snowmass this past weekend to do a little re-route,but Mother Nature had other plans(Major Mud& Rain),so sorry to say this course will be 90% same,but we will have a different start than past PIA rides.
    As Chad^^^^ stated above we will have a little meeting 6-6:20AM to go over the start.Just need to go over the start proper route and a few other things.
    So uploading the current course will be just fine.
    See ya all this weekend.

  • Chad kittles

    Bummer for you T. Ray! I know you were excited about designing a new course. Sorry about mother nature messing up those plans! The old course is sick so I am cool with the old course and I am sure everyone else will! See you bright and early at base camp on Saturday!

  • Nick armano

    No hummingbird trail to get up to van horn park? More single track!

  • Nick armano

    Buttermilk connector? Parallels the owl creek road from buttermilk out to sky mtn park. 1.2 more miles of single track (instead of bike path)

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